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Regarding
Andrew Strom - RevivalSchool.com
A
"cult expert" certifies that FOTM and Doug Perry ARE NOT a
cult in any way, shape or form - and rebukes Andrew Strom. |
On July 12, 2008, Andrew Strom
published an open rebuke and warning on his discussion forum at
RevivalSchool.com about Fellowship Of The Martyrs and Doug
Perry. He made quite a number of assertions and
accusations. Doug (and others) responded back, but Andrew
closed the thread and deleted the final post from Doug. For a
long time, Andrew has withheld from making his feelings about Doug
and FOTM public. Likewise, for a long time, Doug has tried to
reason with him and not made it public. Andrew forced this
issue and the Lord says that it's time for all the shepherds (good
and bad) to have their skirts lifted so everyone can see. Below
are a long list of emails back and forth between Doug and Andrew
dating back to November 10, 2004. Other information is posted
here as well so that you can see.
Pray that the Lord God Almighty
would give you discernment and help you to see His TRUTH and nothing
but. Test and see if the public image and the private behavior
match up. Be sure that you are not following Man - not Andrew
and not Doug. Seek Jesus only! Pray real hard about if
you're even supposed to waste time with this can of worms or if
you're supposed to go spread the Gospel or feed the hungry or heal somebody.
Our goal here is not to call
Andrew a "cult leader" or scrub him out of the Body or hurt
the Sheep. The goal is simply for people to see that the accusations
made are not based on anything other than Andrew's personal pride
problem and a lack of discernment and ability to hear the voice of
God. We pray that if he will not hear after trying again and again to
reach him, then maybe the Body will show him the need for repentance
and humility. That he might be a useful vessel fit for real revival.
----- Original Message -----
From: Maribeth & Brian Curry
To: Andrew Strom
Cc: Doug Perry
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:37 PM
Subject: In conclusion
Dear Andrew.
Because of your allegations that
fotm is a cult I have spent many, many days investigating it very,
very thoroughly.
Instead of responding to my
honest questions, you hid behind the fact that I'd not actually
physically been to Liberty.
Since I am physically unable to
actually go there though I would like to, I talked to, corresponded
with or listened very carefully to 8 people involved in this
situation asking all the necessary questions to discern if your
accusations were in fact true..
I carefully weighed everything I
heard, saw and read, asking Yeshua the entire time what His truth was
about each piece of the puzzle. I repeatedly went back to Doug and
made him explain his response to the allegations. His were completely
transparent and consistent with the person and character he portrays
on the internet. The others continued their rants and poorly
substantiated ideas which were full of twisted reasonings and
emotional, angry, and bitter tirades.
Someone has set these people up
and convinced them that fotm is a cult, taking advantage of their
pain and confusion and is trying to get them to twist enough of their
memories to make them think they were in a cult. They were not.
The thing is Doug answered all my
questions openly and compliantly, yet not once have you respected my
questions to you and given objective concrete answers for your
assertions. Not when I came to you about TACF, and not now.
As a professional deprogrammer
who participated in over 100 cases where we got the person completely
free of their pseudo-Christian cult, the exact kind of thing you are
alleging fotm is, I am here to tell you that you are WRONG!!!
We were supported by our church
family and had pastoral oversight every step of the way and as a
result, though we got cult members out of their cults in 19 countries
on 4 continents, we had no legal problems. We were the only
deprogrammers we knew who didn't either face huge court battles or
spend time in jail for their work. We did it scripturally; God
blessed and protected us, even from threats against our life. So I
think my professional opinion carries some weight in this discussion.
What you've done is take a
conclusion and tried to twist the facts to make it so.
Instead of making the angry,
bitter, often irrational and hurt people get their garbage cleaned up
BEFORE their accusations were accepted as fact, you have used their
pain and confusion to build a case against an anointed ministry.
Then you used that conclusion to
blacken the name of what the Lord is doing, to your audience
worldwide. When called into account, you locked down the forum,
shutting out what you didn't want to hear. That's more control than
I've found in Doug.
Instead, the honest and
respectful thing to do is ask the question, "Is FOTM a cult?"
The activities and attitudes of
Doug simply do not fit the definition of cult.
If you truly want to stick by
this, then you need to do some work which you obviously haven't done
because you've not been able to give me one objective example of cult
activity other than that you've talked to him a few times, rebuking
him mostly, without ever finding out what he actually meant and what
he felt God was saying. Instead you disparage the few things you let
him say and oh yes, you've listened to some angry wounded
people and weighted their ideas far above Doug's. What you didn't do
was investigate far enough to see who actually did the wounding.
It wasn't Doug.
Read William Sargent's Battle for
the Mind. He very clearly lays out in point form, the classical
definition of cult. Read the Divine Principle by Sun Myung Moon or
anything by former polygamous wives of Mormons such as Escape by
Carolyn Jessup or anything by Mary Baker Eddy Smith. The mind-control
is obvious.
Then take the classical
definition, having seen how it applies to the 3 cults listed and try
and find anything in Doug and fotm that fits that model. Sorry, it's
just NOT THERE.
And before you try to throw any
more smoke in my face, we had many people who came to us to get their
kids back out of things like The Church on the Rock and the
Pentecostal Church... so we had to go to Yeshua and ask for the
wisdom to discern each time, what was and what wasn't a cult.
This is my specialty and I'm here to tell you, you are completely wrong.
It's as though you were out
walking at night and heard a baby crying but couldn't find it.
So you call the police and they come with big lights and they can't
find it either though they can hear it too The only thing they find
is a cat, in heat, still meowing and sounding just like a human baby.
Well, you can say, "It
sounds like a baby, has 4 limbs, eyes, nose and mouth like a baby, it
must be a baby!"
But no matter what you want to
believe, when the LIGHT is shone on it, it's obvious, it's a cat.
That's what you've done to Doug.
You've taken some peripheral
activities without ever sitting down and in the love of Yeshua,
asking him respectfully to explain the things you don't understand.
Instead, you've twisted them all around to support your conclusion
without ever even thinking that your conclusion might actually be wrong.
But at the core, not one fotm
activity or attitude lines up with the classical definition of cult.
Error in doctrine does not in
itself define a cult. I am not calling his doctrine error at this
point because I haven't finished working through his thoughts and
understandings of them from start to finish.
But even if he has error,
whatever. Even you have error. Case in point: you're 100% convinced
that 100% of the Toronto Blessing was the enemy. It wasn't. But you
won't even accept that someone who was there every night for 6 months
and followed on for over 3 years might know just a bit more about
what was and what wasn't Holy Spirit's ministry there than you who wasn't.
So do I call you a cult and quit
reading your stuff and post around the world that you're in the enemy
camp? NO of course not. You have an anointed ministry and I wouldn't
think of blackening your name.
But you are quite cavalier to do
that very thing to Doug and his anointed ministry.
I could go on but I will close
with this.
There are thousands of people who
will accept what you say, because you say it.
You have used that respect to
damage the work of The Lord Jesus Christ and you will answer for it.
Scripture says. "Inasmuch as
you have done this to one of the least of my brethren, you have done
it unto me."
You need to fall on your face and
repent for coming against Jesus Christ the Carpenter of Nazareth who
was crucified for our sins and rose that 3rd day to bring us to new
life with Him.
The unforgivable sin is calling a
work of Holy Spirit, a work of the enemy and you skate very close to that.
I truly pray that you don't bring
your house down around your head if you ignore this Ezek 33 warning
from me.
You've been warned and your blood
is upon your own head. And because I'm a prophetic voice that's been
in total seclusion for 6 years, so you can't damage my name or
reputation. There's no one who would care. That's why God
raised me up to get in your face about this. I truly pray that you
will set aside your preconceptions and let Him reveal what's going on
in your heart.
The ball's in your court.
I'm done. Am not going to put any
more of my time or energy into this set of spurious allegations.
I've gone back to each person and
told them my conclusions and that I am now through. You were the last
to be addressed because you were the first, the one who started this
witch hunt in your emails to me.
Sincerely,
Maribeth
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{ANDREW'S RESPONSE TO MARIBETH}
From: Andrew Strom
To: Maribeth & Brian Curry
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008
Subject: In conclusion
Boy Oh Boy.
I keep telling you to GO THERE
and LIVE THERE for awhile.
All the people you denigrate have
seen and been around Doug for days and weeks - often months and years.
Please GO TO LIBERTY and live
there for a couple of years!
Surely you can do that if you are
going to be so insistent!!
I literally have nothing more to say.
Goodbye.
Andrew Strom.
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YOU DECIDE WHO IS ACTING MORE LIKE JESUS.
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