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The BIG Picture
"Collected wisdom from the journey."
from Doug Perry - www.FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com - November, 2007

Chapter Ten - IMAGINATIONS
(Nothing written yet, but here is a video response to this topic.)

 

(Transcript of video)

One of the things that people have said over and over is that imaginations are bad and that the imagination is bad, and visualization is bad, that it's new age, and evil and that God cast down imaginations etc.  I've had people "see" out in front of them the sin like unforgiveness and take their sword of the Spirit and hack it up into a million pieces and ask the Lord to wash it away by the blood of Jesus.   And the reaction of some is that it's imagination, that it's bad, wrong, and using visualization etc.

First of all lets look at some Scripture and I'll show you how ridiculously man-made that particular little bit of doctrine is.  Here's the verse that they always point to: 

    2 Corinthians 10:5 - Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. (King James Version) 

Okay that's what we're supposed to be doing; it's casting down imaginations and every other high thing, imagination being one of those high things if it exalts itself against the knowledge of God.  So, the argument has been that we're to cast down imaginations, which a) is totally dopey, and impossible, and b) isn't Scriptural. 

Well, how about this one: this is David's thanksgiving and prayer to God:   

    1 Chronicles 29:18 - O LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, our fathers, keep this for ever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of thy people, and prepare their heart unto thee. (King James Version)

He is saying that this thing that the Lord has done, keep it ever in the imaginations of the people so that they could re-live and re-experience and remember this thing that He had done for them.  

Again, David exhorts the people to fear God in

    1 Chronicles 28:9 - And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever. (King James Version) 

He's not telling him to have no imagination, or to not imagine anything, he's telling him to make sure that the thoughts and imaginations of his mind are pure because the Lord searches those things.

In Proverbs 6:18 "An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief," are listed as some of things that God hates.   Now this isn't a heart that devises imaginations, this is a heart that devises WICKED imaginations.   Do you see the difference?  He tests our hearts; He knows the intentions of our hearts and the meditations of our mind.  That doesn't mean we're not to have meditations of our mind, it means we're meant to have PURE meditations of our mind.  That we're to think on good things, not to NOT think at all!

    Rom 1:21 - Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (King James Version)

The problem wasn't that they had imaginations; the problem was that their imaginations became vain.  It became all about themselves, and what they were going to do.  That's when their hearts became darkened, and their imaginations became vain, not when they had imaginations.

    Jer 7:24 - But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward. (King James Version),

There are lots of those in Jeremiah, simply do a search on "blueletter bible" on imagination or imaginations.  Sometimes what he's talking about is the mind, or just the thoughts, and it talks a lot in Jeremiah how they walked in the council and the imagination of their evil heart.  So the problem is not that they imagined or visualized, the problem is that they walked in the imagination of their evil heart. 

What we need to understand is that our imagination, what we think, is the gateway to reach God.  That is where faith comes from.  If you believe because you can see it in your mind, because you can feel it, because you can visualize it, because you understand it that Jesus died on a cross went to the grave, rose again, and died for you, you have visualized, you have imagined, and you have believed that it is true.  That's where faith comes from, because it's the evidence of things not seen, which means it's internal. 

Jesus said that He came to fulfill the law - what used to be; if you committed adultery with someone, then that's a violation of the Big 10, Jesus said I came to make it even harder, I came to spiritualize what was a natural law is now even bigger and broader because it's also spiritual.  From now, if you have sex with a woman, you're guilty of adultery, if it's not your wife, and if you have sex with her in your head, you're even thinking about having sex with her, you're guilty of adultery also, because in the spiritual realm, you really did do what you just imagined.  You had sex with that pin-up or that centerfold, or your neighbor's wife, etc, in the spiritual realms, and satan watched and took notes, and God had to watch and Jesus had to stand there and watch while the guy you say is your husband watches you have sex with whatever.   And it happened in my imagination, and it's my vain imagination that's in my heart that he's talking about. 

Now if you believe that demons are real and that they're big, and you're little, and that they're going to crush you, and you're defenseless against them, you will be.  You will be little, and they will be big, and they will crush you, because if you bind it on earth, it will be bound in heaven.  If you believe that every morning you're visualizing putting on your Ephesians 6:10 armor, and go through that process of putting on that armor every morning, it will defend you, it will protect you.  The same people that are saying not to visualize, or we're not to imagine anything, probable are also telling you that you need to get your armor on!  Well, that armor is spiritual; that armor happened because of faith inside your head, inside the spiritual realms you believe that it happens, and it does.  If you believe that you can rebuke demons in the name of Jesus, and they will go; they'll go. 

I once heard about a pastor who was rebuking a demon off of somebody, and he was shaking his Bible at it, and the demon said, "You can't get me off, that's a NIV!", so he changed the whole church to the King James because the demon told him that the NIV didn't count!  Demons lie!  You don't create doctrines based on what demons tell you!  But if you believe that NIV is not going to work when you shake it at a demon, it's not going to work. 

I don't think I need a King James, or a NIV to shake at a demon; I believe Jesus said "Go" and they went, and that's all it should take.  You shouldn't have to sprinkle them, or blow at them, or shake people until they leave, He said "Go", and they go.  If you don't have enough authority for them to go when you say go, then you probably have open doors that you need to get closed.

Like the video on your cup at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpephy9PZaI, seeing your cup, understanding what's in your cup, asking the Lord to show you what's in your cup.  If you insist that imagination is wrong, and you try to disconnect entirely from that, then you're not going to be able to connect to Him in the spiritual realms because you're shutting down the way that He accesses us, which is by faith, which happens in our mind.  We believe He's real because we stand in faith, and know that we can close our eyes and see Jesus because we know that He's there, and we know that He's real. 

Take a look at the Bible, I think I've shown you already.  There are examples where the Lord says, Store it up in your mind, and meditate on these things.  Fill your heart with good things, think on good things, lovely things&ldots;. That's imaginations, and He's not saying to NOT have any imaginations, He's saying to let Him have control of your mind, and let it be pure, not vain or your own foolish heart. 

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