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Text of "Dear Atheists, You WIN!! I GIVE UP!
Audio on http://www.YouTube.com/fotm1

Dear Atheists, Agnostics and other Christian-bashers,

OK! You win. I give up. You're right and you've been right all along. The institutional Christian church is a murderous, lying, thieving, ego-driven, power hungry, poor killing, rich elevating, destroyer of lives. You're right. No doubt about it. It's all a big, giant, man-made power trip.

And I've got to hand it to you for figuring it out WAY before I did!  You were trying to tell me and I wouldn't listen. So thanks. I'm sorry I was so pig-headed.

I was trapped inside that whore for decades, but now I'm free!  And you know what? Now that I'm outside and looking at it without scales on my eyes, I can see that God is REALLY pissed off!! There are a WHOLE LOT of people saying “Thus sayeth the Lord” and He didn't say anything at all to them. (Well, He might have told them to repent personally, but they don't want to hear that.)

But see, here's the thing, mostly the problem you're having is with Churchianity, not with Jesus.  There are folks that are believers in Christianity the organized religion and folks that just follow Jesus.  I doubt you've actually ever met very many of the ones that just follow Jesus.  There's a HUMUNGOUS difference between the man-made, ego-driven, Big Church, religion that we're used to and what Jesus actually founded. Let me give you some examples.

The Crusades? Not Jesus' idea. The Inquisition? Not Jesus' idea. The infighting between sects in Northern Ireland? Not Jesus' idea. The fact that we have now more than 37,000 denominations in this thing we've been calling “The Christian Church”? Not Jesus' idea.  Jimmy Swaggart crying all the time for money? Not Jesus' idea.  Oral Roberts gonna die if you don't send money? Not Jesus' idea.  Megachurches that spend $70 million to remodel a stadium and ignore the poor? Not Jesus' idea.  You getting this yet?

See, the thing you're not understanding is that there IS a real battle between Good and Evil – and Evil has pretty much built this whole thing we've been calling “church”.  Yeah, OK, some of you don't think there is such a thing as a real Satan. Fine, whatever, then call it man's own depravity – I don't really care. The point is that whatever did it, it wasn't based on what Jesus said to do!  BUT ... we've been telling you that we're holy and we know what we're doing.  But it's a lie. It's demostrably, proveably, statistically, no question about it a lie. We've completely screwed up. This is SO far away from what Jesus taught that most of it is going to have to destroyed before we can start over!

Maybe this will help. I'm publicly notifying you and admitting to you that the VAST majority of people in America that SAY they are Christians are going straight to HELL.  I'm not God and I haven't seen the latest report, but I'm betting somewhere around 98% of the people that think they are safe are actually on the Broad Path straight to hell.  You can't say a little magic prayer and then do whatever you want.  You can't sit in pew or get dunked and think you're safe now.  Jesus said you would be a new creation and you would walk in righteousness. He said you would be hated and persecuted and nothing you have would be your own. He said that Christians would be known by their freakish, unstoppable, unconditional, self-sacrificing love for each other. Is that how we got 37,000 denominations? By our love?  I'm thinking not.

OK, so here's the thing. When I started seeing straight about the church. I started questioning everything. The Baptists had lied to me about the miracles and gifts in the Book of Acts not being for today. The Charismatics lied to me about being FILLED with the Spirit and staying full all the time. The Nazarenes and Wesleyan lied to me when they said they couldn't sin anymore.  Never mind the lady with pink hair asking for money. Everybody that's not supernaturally bewitched by the pulsating glow off her jewelry should see through that!

I questioned everything. I refuse to listen to ANY man anymore. They're all whacked. If God is out there, then I need HIM to explain all this to me and tell me what to do now.  And He did. He rocked my world, gave me a vision of how bad things really are, scrubbed me clean of a whole bunch of bad stuff I was still carrying, started talking to me REALLY loud.  I told Him that He could have anything that I had if only He would use me to turn this mess around. My business, my family, my friends, my money, my life, comforts – whatever. And He took me seriously and took it all. And I couldn't be happier! Because I traded the temporary for the eternal.

Anyway, don't bother trying to convince me there is no God and Jesus is a myth. He holds my hand everyday. I've been two years now trusting Him for everything. I hear His voice all day every day and the proof is the long string of miracles and healing and deliverance and radical personal transformations that trail in my wake wherever I go. No credit to ME!! God forbid! He's killed so much of me, I'm barely even in here! This is all about Jesus. And He's real and you can't talk me out of it.  There is just TOO much evidence and proof of Him moving miraculously in my life. So don't bother trying to argue with me about that. Your theories cannot outweigh to my personal experience.

But I'm not here to argue with you about God. I'm here for two reasons. First, to admit to you that this thing called “church” that we've built over the last 1800 years is totally whacked.  You're right to hate it and I'm glad you're trying to kill it.  Secondly, I'd like to help you do it. So I'm going to give you the best ammunition I have. I'd like you to take this bullets and go and WRECK the thing!  There's lots more on my website - www.FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com.   The text to this audio is there, too, under /atheists.htm.

Now, please, understand, I'm not trying to convert you!  I'm trying to get the people that SAY they love Jesus to actually start acting like JESUS!  That's not so wrong, is it? I mean, Jesus was a good guy, right? I don't care if you think He was mythological and fictional – He said some good stuff and it would probably be a really good thing for our cities and our country if the people that SAY they love Jesus were actually BEING loving, self-sacrificing, servants and foot-washers, right?  So please lay off me with the cursing and the useless poking at me, I'm just trying to help you out here.

OK, for example, here's a good one.  Read Galatians 5:19-21 - “19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” That's the King James just so their religious spirits won't flare up at you. Anyway, take a hard look at the word “heresies”. In the Greek that means “schools of opinion”. It's translated in other versions as “factions”.

Do you get it? Ask any Christian how they can justify 37,000 denominations in the light of that scripture? Isn't a seminary just a “school of opinion”?  If dissensions and strife and seditions and factions are the acts of the sinful nature and this thing we call “church” is full of that stuff, then doesn't it say VERY clearly there that those who do such things are NOT going to inherit the kingdom of God? That can't be good!

Take a look at the Scary Stats page of the website (or the audio). If you take the total of all the money we spend divided by the number of baptisms you get a rough estimate of Return on Investment, that is, efficiency per dollar.  In India, the average cost per baptism is $9803.  In the United States is $1.55 MILLION dollars.  OK, something is whacked! Something is really, really wrong. The people that say they want to get the Gospel to the whole world are spending over 90% of the money on themselves!  I'm pretty sure God's not going to like that, especially since they're telling people that GOD told them to buy that million dollar chandelier for the sanctuary!

Listen, I've got enough problems trying to get the people that SAY they love Jesus to mean it!  Please don't pester me with your arguments about evolution or whatever. I don't care about that. If you're nice, maybe I'll give you more ammo. There's plenty. 

Trust me, God is not NEARLY as mad at you as He is at the people that say they are His children and are continually spitting on Him. You're supposed to spit on Him. That's what you do.  He doesn't mind the “world” acting like the “world”. But the people that say they love Jesus are going to be held to a higher standard. And they need to shape up or He's going to flatten them.

Judgement is coming on America. But it's not because of the gays or the atheists or the satanists or the Democrats.  Judgement is coming on America because of the lukewarm church. And God is going to spank them REALLY hard and spew them out.  Unfortunately, everybody else is going to have to come along for the ride.  And I'm really sorry about that.  If the Book of Revelation is real, then two thirds of the planet is going to die. And it won't be the fault of the “world”, it will be a judgement against the church for not having obeyed. Read Deuteronomy 28.

Of course, I could be thoroughly and certifiably nuts. In which case, you should not try to reason with me, you should just ignore me completely. But please don't medicate me, I'm really enjoying this adventure!

As for me. I'm going to follow Jesus from now on. No Man gets to by my Head anymore. If I meet you someday, maybe you'd give me a chance to apologize in person. This is no gimmick. I mean it.

I love you. I really do. I'm not kidding. I mean it all the way and I'm not going to stop loving you. 

Doug Perry
www.FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com

 

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MORE ABOUT THE:

Atheism Kills - Statistics about Atheism
video that has been on YouTube and elsewhere.

Powerpoint presentation with all the text is here - Source is "World Christian Trends AD30 to AD2200; A summary of the Christian mega-census." By David Barrett and Todd Johnson, William Carey Library, 2001.

The statistics on martyrdom are only ONE tiny component of this massive book of statistics. Nearly all of it highly critical of the Church. For your information, this book is despised in many Christian circles. The conclusions the author comes to about the state of the Church are VERY difficult for the status quo to swallow. This is not a self-serving book attacking Atheism. It is a critique of the Church. I just pulled the martyrdom stats out for this video. You can see some horrifying stats about the state of the Church - here Scary Stats.

Please understand, the point of this video was not to convert you or threaten you. The point was to show that when leaders who do not place any value on human life take control of a giant mechanism, they almost immediately start killing people. ANY people that oppose them. PARTICULARLY people that put value on human life.  The Protestant reforms had their problems, but they never killed anywhere near the number that the Roman Catholics did. Why? Because the Catholics didn't put any value on human life - except that of the leadership. The Protestants weren't right either. They changed a FEW things, but they STILL did not return to the model Jesus set for us!  Calvin and Luther killed people, too.  But you can't find anybody killed by the Anabaptists and some others. The people following JESUS - not RELIGION - didn't set out to kill.

Anyway, you don't want to be lumped in with Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot, you find it offensive - well, I don't want to lumped in with killer Pope This or That!  If you want me to stop thinking you are amoral and place no value on human life, then stop saying you'll be glad when I'm dead - or worse that you want to scrub the planet free of the likes of me!  That doesn't really convince me you're harmless.  Stop telling me that you want to pass laws to protect MY OWN children from hearing about my religious views. That requires state intervention into religion, violates the First Ammendment - and when I won't obey that bad law, will make me a criminal, a target, a threat to the state and expendable.  Your organized "hit squads" on places like YouTube are not really any different then the "heresy hunter" websites that whacked Christians use to shoot at each other.  We're not so different.  Because we all share a flawed, fallen nature that will kill if given half a chance. 

Here is the original video before "theskepticantidote" doctored it up for YouTube.  I was aiming for a little more "happy" than he was. :-)

The point of the video was that, how come Christians are the majority and we haven't hunted down all the atheists?  In fact, why are Christians, knowing the harm atheistic teachings have done in the past, allowing it to encroach on our culture so much?  Mostly because those of us that are obey JESUS CHRIST understand that we're supposed to love you, not kill you.  And if you talk me out my religioin and convince me God is dead, that might be the only thing keeping me from hunting down other human beings.  Maybe you ought to be grateful for it and leave me alone.  You really don't have any idea how many mass murderers are being restrained by their fear of hell.  Maybe it's not such a good thing to take it out of them.  Statistically speaking, you're kind of on shaky ground saying they'll be better off as atheists.

You might also read the "Message to Gen X, Gen Y, Anarchists and others" that is HERE. 

Thanks for taking the time to listen to me. I'm not trying to convert you. I'm trying to tell you that the thing you've been calling "Christianity" probably doesn't actually have much of anything to do with Jesus at all.  Trust me, the "institutional church" is not NEARLY as scared of YOU as they are of ME!!  Want to be a radical?  Don't mouth off on YouTube, go stand up in church and tell them the Lord says He's VERY unhappy and about to CRUSH THEM ALL for being lukewarm pukes.  Yeah, you don't have it so bad.  :-)

A really cool brother from Canada redid my video and jazzed it up!  Here is his version!
Between the two versions, they saw over 3,000 views in the first 72 hours!

 

 

 

 

 

 

This site is meant to be just a plain, direct reporting of how miserably, horribly, devastatingly badly we - the Christians in the West - have mismanaged the massive gifts which God has entrusted to us.   Maybe we can change directions if we try something different. Maybe if we started listening to God really well and obeying radically, no matter what the cost. Yeah, that might work.

Although we're perfectly capable of it - we're not trying to impress you with our fancy web design, marketing savvy and slick Madison Avenue ad techniques.  Truth is Truth.  Your heart knows the difference.

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